July 2002 Archives

Huh?

Alright ok ok alright I am still trying to understand this picture which was linked from Amy Welborn's joint. Here's a comment from her site:

The Holy Father should not presume to speak publicly about modesty in dress if he is willing to stare at a a man parading in front of him at Mass in the equivalent of a speedo.

More seriously, the presence of pagan Aztec culture at a Mass celebrating the canonization of a saint whose vocation was to maintain the Christian conversion of native pagans is a grotesque absurdity -- at least they didn't cut out anybody's heart, I hope. This and the dozens of similar things one could cite prove that Faith is a supernatural virtue. Anyone trying to make sense out of today's Catholic Church on rational grounds alone would very quickly give up the fruitless effort.

David Kubiak

I didn't see any of the coverage on EWTN or any other network for that matter. I hope the dancing was less provacative than the attire.

If you are local to the Washington Metro area (McLean, VA) and have no plans for the evening of August 8, check this out. The Washington Capella Antigva will be chanting Vespers and the Mass at St. Catherine of Siena. I will be singing tenor in the group and loving it - you have never heard chant until you have heard Dr. Jacobson's interpretation. It makes everything else sound like a bunch of comatose monks! Email me to let me know if you are coming.

New blog alert!

Gregg the obscure with links sacred and profane! Interesting stuff about the dog, too!

More on hymns and hymnals

from Alexandra at Oremus. I love how she contrasts hymns that tell us how to behave versus hymns that tell God how to behave.

Here's some inside dope for you

I had a brief conversation with someone who works at the US Conference of Catholic Bishops. I asked about the controversy surrounding some of the appointments to the lay National Review Board. He said he only knew of one person who had been controversial - McHugh who disagrees with the validity of surpressed memories. No mention of Panetta or Bennet. Apparently the staff there doesn't see any other appointments as controversial. I know this has been blogged about extensively. I am in agreement with most of my fellow bloggers. I believe this shows a stunning disregard for the dissent that has had a large part in creating this crisis. Gov. Keating said this of the board: "this is an impressive group of Catholic lay leaders who are committed to restoring credibility and faith in the church." How about a group that contains members who are unapologetic about the truth of Catholic doctrine?

Father DeCelles going home today

I just found out from a friend that Father DeCelles is going home today and will take some time to recuperate. He asked that we continue to pray for him. Thank God he's going to be ok!

Mother of Sorrows, pray


Mother of Sorrows, pray for us

"You shall not crucify good taste upon a cross of cheese" This is a very compelling post on what has been called the "sin of aesthetic pride" by Gregory Popcak. I don't mind trotting out the usual suspects from my own experience to support the Goliard's position. Our new parochial vicar has continued to celebrate a weekly Latin Mass though it is not an official parish Mass and won't have a regular scheduled time as such. Dr. Jacobson, director of the Washington Capella Antiqva, has been very kind to attend and chant the introit and other parts of the Mass appropriate for a lay person, and I have to tell all of you once again that for me it is an extraordinarily reverent and sublimely transcendent offering. Christ is present in the gathering of His people, in the Scripture, in the person of the priest and most importantly in the Eucharist at any Mass but it is altogether another dimension when Mass is celebrated with chant and in particular when someone a knowlegable about chant as Dr. Jacobson is leading us in prayer. Would you describe Marty Haugen's music as "extraordinarily reverent and sublimely transcendent?" I think not. It is only question of taste or musical elitism? No. Like the Liturgy of the Hours, the chants of the Graduale follow the liturgical calendar and are being utilized in the Mass in monasteries and other congregations around the world. They are a beautiful aspect of Catholic worship. Unfortunately they are almost totally inaccessible to most Catholics because of the way they are notated and because the English translations are not readily available. Contrast those prayers to the drivel we sing weekly and you'll see the difference - we don't sing about ourselves or sing as though we are God in first person in chant.

Thanks for your prayers!

I just got this update about Fr. De Celles!

Praised be Our Lord Jesus Christ! Your prayers have been heard.
Fr. De Celles improved remarkably today and is "out of the woods."
I met his sister today at the ICU and she was most grateful for all the prayers.
They really carried the day.

Urgent prayers needed!

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This was just forwarded to me by a regular Latin Mass attendee at St. Mark's.

Please pray for Fr. John De Celles, a fine young priest of the Arlington,
Virginia, diocese who was ordained in 1996. He epitomizes what is best about
the priesthood: very solid in his convictions and faithful to the teachings of the
Roman Catholic Church. He spent the last three years as assistant pastor to
Fr. Jerome Fasano, T.O.P.

Fr. De Celles has an extremely serious infection in his blood stream. The situation
is very grave and could result in death. He is unconscious (due to the
medications and tubes, etc.) Yesterday they cut through his cheek to remove
an infected tooth.

Divine intervention is definitely needed. See message from the other assistant
pastor at St. Andrew's (below).

From: Father Lawrence M. Violette
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 4:07 PM
Subject: EMERGENCY PRAYERS, Please...

Father John De Celles, who, until last month was stationed here at St. Andrew's until his transfer to St. Michael's in Annandale, is in the ICU unit at Fairfax Hospital. He had an abscess, and, after two surgeries, went into sceptic shock. If they don't kick it out of him, he could die.

Thanks for your prayers! This is very, very serious.

God bless you!

I have met Father De Celles and heard him preach in his new assignment just down the road at St. Michael's. Please pray for him!

James Traficant was expelled from

James Traficant was expelled from The House of Representatives yesterday. I will miss his antics - he was a quite a colorful guy.

"Am I different? Yeah. Have I changed my pants? No. Deep down, you really want to wear wider bottoms, you're just afraid," he said, referring to his '70s-style bell-bottom trousers.

The only Congressman to vote against Traficant's explusion? Gary Condit.

Want to know what fries my baloney?

A processional cross with a Resurrected Christ on it. That's about as appropriate as nuns in leotards dancing to the tune of "I'm a Little Teapot" on the Solemnity of Christ the King.

Are you resurrected? Are you inhabiting your glorified body following the General Judgment? Are you sitting in row 1,359,299,783 in the heavenly stadium while a band of Angels is singing the Hallelujah from the Mount of Olives?

I didn't think so. So why parade around the church during the Easter season or at a funeral with a resurrected Christ on the cross? Aren't we all still suffering? Aren't we called to sacrifice and suffering? Why is it that it's just in the last few decades out of 2,000 years that we are pre-emptively celebrating the resurrection?

If one of the more educated folks in St Blog's Parish can tell me there's some historical precedent for this, I'm all ears.

Sheananigans

Welcome folks who came from Mark Shea's blog, and thanks for spending some time in Schultzville.

Neil Obstat

has been champing at the bit for someone to write "chomping at the bit."

Why Jesus, why here and why this way?

These questions we posed yesterday by Amy Wellborn. There are a lot of comments on her site but I will put my two cents here instead.

Why Jesus? He wasn't only a thinker, prophet or teacher, he did things on this Earth that only God can do. Compare His life with Buddha's or Mohammed's and you will see what I mean.

Why here and why this way? The Catholic Church was founded by Jesus himself and our lives, as his was, are to be sacramental. His grace is not only conferred on us through the sacraments, but the sacraments are the divinely appointed means He gave us to share in His life. He conferred his grace by physical means, i.e. healing the blind man with mud he made with his spittle, and he comissioned the Apostles to continue this sacramental activity through the Eucharist, forgiveness of sins, laying on of hands, etc.

Another question might be why not another way? I hear from Protestants, mostly Evangelicals, that "you can't put God in a box." By that I think they mean you don't have to have rules and rituals to experience the grace of God. That's true, but unfortunately they also mean some of the rules don't matter, particularly the ones they disagree with. Just because God has revealed truth doesn't mean that He Himself has limited himself, He has simply shown us the way to eternal life. Dogma does not confine God, it reveals Him.

So, Amy, that's not a feeling or a "faith experience." That is the fullness of truth.

Karl from Summa Contra Mundum

Karl from Summa Contra Mundum wrote yesterday about the Liturgy of the Hours and how lay people can participate in these universal prayers. You can view it online at the Universalis website or download it to your PDA on a weekly or daily basis. Another great alternative is the Magnificat publication to which you can subscribe via this website. In addition to the Office of Readings and prayers of the Mass, it contains daily reflections.

Karl mentioned the priests from the local parish preaching from the Office of Readings and doing wonderful things to promote the spiritual well-being of their parishoners. It is unfortunate that we neglect the richness of Catholic tradition - especially what the saints have to tell us.

Looking for a recording

For what it's worth, here's something on my wish list: Edward Elgar "The Dream of Gerontius" with Jon Vickers singing Gerontius. Sir John Barbirolli conducting. Radio broadcast from Italy. Was reprinted by Arkadia in the mid 90s. If some kind soul sees this and doesn't acknowledge the genius of Elgar and Vickers together, please let me take it off your hands.

American Moms & Dads, Pay Attention

This story about a Greek family shows how a parent can and should deal with a child who commits horrible crimes:

"All these days I have been praying ... for God to reveal the truth, for the guilty ones to be revealed. God has done his miracle. The police did their job well. The truth was revealed and the guilty ones were revealed. And I am happy for this, even if my own children were involved. Whoever did something must pay. Everyone must pay, either here or in the next life."

Exactly the opposite of John Walker-Lindh's dad, and the parents of that idiot college kid who was trying to draw a smiley face across America with mailbox bombs.

Reminder

Someone remind Steve that I need an FTP account to his Web server so I can start posting images.

Yet another trip to the Shrine

I took in another wonderful organ recital at The National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception yesterday afternoon. One of my favorite composers of organ music, Jean Langlais, was on the program as was some fantastic music by Marcel Dupre. I left the program at home but will post it later. I've got more pictures but I'm sure if any are worth posting.

New blog!

World's worst apologist

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That's me. I was at work yesterday finishing up a project with some of my people, well God's people really but I am responsible for what they do at work. A guy who goes to an evangelical church asks me, "What's the difference between Christians and Catholics?" I ramble on for ten minutes about the authority of scripture and tradition, where the New Testament came from, apostolic succession, and the papacy. My colleague slipped into a coma by the time I was done. He didn't ask any questions. He said "mmmhmmm" and went back to his work. I don't suppose he'll be asking me about any matters of faith or religion in the future.

May God have mercy on me!

An akward moment

Today during the announcements, our associate pastor had to announce that tickets were on sale for the summer musical: Damn Yankees.

Saturday Tidbit

Waynesboro, VA was the location of my Father-in-Law's 92 birthday party. He drove himself 30 minutes to get there from Charlottesville. All his children were there, with their spouses and a couple of the grandkids. His good marble to desired good marble ratio is 99/100, the only problem is he hates wearing his hearing aids. I can always tell he isn't wearing them when I call:
"Hi Fritz it's John"
"I'm doing fine, thank you"
"Great - we'll be there at 2:30, is that ok?"
"When will you be here?"
"Do you have your hearing aids in?"
"What?!?"
"Put your hearing aids in, Fritz"
"Why are you bringing Kibbles and Bits?"

My dog is very happy to get the long car ride with us to Waynesboro because like all dogs she loves the steady whir of the engine and the fact there are 50 billion new smells just minutes from our house. The party was at my sister-in-law's house and after dinner a few folks got in the pool, which drives my dog crazy because she wants to play but hasn't taken to swimming just yet. So after a few minutes of barking, running around the pool and acting crazy I just threw her in. She's got a black coat like a Belgian Shepherd, when she got out of the pool she looked like a big black wet rat. And she wouldn't shake until she was right next to someone.

Time to get ready for Mass.

Airlinemeals.net

Just when you thought you had seen everything there was to see on the in-TAR-net along comes this site where you can view and post pictures of meals you've had on flights. Some of them make your seat cushion (which can be used as a floatation device) look quite tasty.

Music styles in the liturgy

In the grand scheme if the music we are playing and singing in church is pedestrian and about us rather than God, then yes, the style does matter. There is a widespread misunderstanding in the Church today about what the Mass actually is. The Sacrifice of the Mass was given to us by God, it is not us giving it to Him. It is not about "fellowshipping" or singing about how great we are. It is the perpetual sacrifice of Christ re-presented to the Father. It is the prayer of God the Son to God the Father.

It's clear that the styles we have been singing in (combine with the lyrics and the decline in the quality of catechesis) truly do matter.

So why haven't the Bishops spoken up on this?

North American College in Rome

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Very interesting post by Fr. Jim about his experience there.

Hallelujah

Handel's Hallelujah Chorus brought tears to my eyes this morning while I drove to work. It's a wonderful beyond words. A bit of music trivia for you folks: Handel's Messiah is one of those works that ends up in the snobby musician spotlight because it's old enough that educated folks want to hear it without the 19th-century bombasticism [alert: I just made up a great word! sounds like monasticism and is almost an antonym.]

Most British conductors will strive for a performance that sounds like the original. Most Italian conductors will go nuts, reorchestrate it to include things like tubas or a gong (that didn't even exist in Western music at the time,) and super-loudness and tempo changes that make Danny Elfman scores sound like C.P.E. Bach. My feeling is the music doesn't need 19th-century non-sensibilities in order to be effective. It's a true masterpiece and therefore the performance style doesn't need to change to please an ear with different taste.

So I'm circling back to my previous thought: Where are the Sacred Masterpieces of the 20th Century? I can name a few and the composers don't have S.J. after their name.

www.slightlymissingmypoint.com

The issue is not whether Church documents have some preferences and norms: the Constitution on the Sacred Liturgy details the preeminent place of chant, polyphony and the organ in latin rite liturgies. The issue is rather the fact that bishops don't have much to say about those norms, or about musical style. It's literally within a Bishop's authority to ban certain instruments from the church, but I'm not aware of any who have felt the need to ban the slide-whistle, the kazoo, the harmonica or the bassoon. I won't mention the g-u-i-t-a-r or I'll get all sorts of nasty feedback about how snotty I am.

So the question is: is music style in church really that important in the grand scheme?

GIRM?

John - Doesn't the GIRM have guidelines about instrumentation or at least what is preferred for the Mass?

Thinking

Every now and then I wonder if the whole discussion around musical styles is worth the effort and heartburn associated with it. Many kind-hearted people of traditional tastes in music have noted that the US Bishops have not exercised much guidance and authority around music in catholic worship. In fact, documents like Music in Catholic Worship don't address the issue of what sounds sacred, what's preferred, holy or best in terms of style. Consequently, local pastors often bear the brunt of issues around a music program related to budget, who hired/or serves as volunteers and what instruments are used or purchased. And we know that local pastors have many, many things that are higher on the food chain: the sacraments, the care for the sick and the poor, education, building expansion, etc.

I don't have an answer - I'm just throwing it out there for discussion and as a question worth pondering: what is truly worth living for - are we truly serving the Kingdom of God, or our we caught up in melting down gold for the calf?

Side note: I was listening to all sorts of great music on the way to work: Hallelujah Chorus, the Rutter "God be in my head", the Stanford "Justorum Animae" and I thought, how wonderful and beautiful are those things. And how much greater will the heavenly music be.

"Beale is also a member of 'The Singing Priests,' a group of priests who perform show tunes...for charity."

Show tunes... not kosher.

Elderly Yodeler Causes Police Alert

BERLIN (Reuters) - German police investigating reports of screams coming from an apartment said Wednesday they had found a 76-year-old woman practicing for a yodeling diploma.

Neighbors called police after hearing noises coming from the flat in the western town of Offenbach near Frankfurt.

"The officers weren't able to judge whether the neighbors were unfamiliar with Bavarian folk music or whether the lady still requires a lot of practice," police said in a statement.

This guy is both guilty and crazy

Moussaoui Attempts to Plead Guilty
Do you think he really needs time to think it over?

Washington Capella Antiqva

Probably none of you recall that I auditioned for an early music ensemble some time ago. I was accepted and have been rehearsing with them for an upcoming chanted Mass we're chanting for a meeting of the Chapters of the Third Order OP. Now here is a section of an email from the director of the group.

...it is all in Dominican Chant, a very good way to introduce new Cappella members into chant performance, since this type of chant is a little easier than Roman or Monastic, viz. "Gregorian" chant; for one thing we just read the notes from the four-line stave without worrying about having to read the original neumes simultaneously, since it is a late [for chant] form of the genner [late12th - 13th Century], and the melodies tend to be slightly shorter and simpler than those of the earlier traditions.

He is probably one of the most knowledgeable people in the world about early sacred music. I think he could kick the crap out of all those monks from the Abbey of Solesmes.

Muzak to my ears

Mark Sullivan gave this blog an honorable mention related to OCP having sound bites available on their site. Of course their music is mostly smarm, but I have to applaud the smart marketing, and I wish some of the publishers of sacred-style music would do the same.

A project I'm working on for my choir is to get the difficult music in the computer so that I can make CD's of the parts. Nothing is more frustrating than a rehearsal where you pound notes for 2 hours, so I'm trying to make it easy for my choir members to learn on the road, at home, etc. It should be a great year because they work really hard.

Something Beautiful

Here's an incomplete sound bite from a motet by renound cellist Pablo Casals: O Vos Omnes. The text is suitable for Palm Sunday or Good Friday. There's a Cambridge Singers recording that is in print and has other wonderful stuff if you get hooked.

It's wonderful to hear a mixture of emotion with a character of the sacred, a setting of the words of Jesus that is both moving emotionally and pointing one's heart to greater things.

Progress

I know almost everyone in blogland knows this, but I'm glad to mention it.
Pope accepts resignation of South African bishop implicated in gay Web site scandal.

And I'm penance this is a time of penance and redemption for someone with such ignominy.

Pius XII

Brief but edifying article on the Catholic League Web site by Rabbi David Dalin, Ph.D.

I just checked sitemeter for our stats and saw that one of our recent referrals was from The Corner. "Oh, happy day!" thought I, "We've finally arrived! Rod Dreher has linked to us on The Corner!" No such luck. I'll bet 5 dollars that John was reading The Corner and then came over to our blog. Oh well. I guess he doesn't particularly care about Haugen lyrics being theologically obtuse.

The schedule of organ and carillon recitals is here. Guest artists are featured most every weekend, most of them from the Washington Metro area, some from abroad. Some of the standard repertoire is being repeated by a few of the artists but what the hey - they probably get one chance to play at the Shrine - they may as well play what they like. I attended the recital this past Sunday and took some pictures beforehand. The program was great - but I can't remember any of it now. I'll have to find it and post it.

Here are some reductions of the photos I took.

This is the canopy above the altar. It was taken just beneath the stunning mosaic called "Christ in Majesty" that scares Emily Stimpson, small children, and hardened sinners.

I'd be happy to email some of the good ones to readers but they are huge - almost 1 MB a piece. You'd have to have a fast connection to the net or it would take all day to get them. Please email me if interested. The originals make good desktop wallpaper for pious pilgrims!

Happy Bastille Day!

From Jonah Goldberg:
For all I know, saying gesundheit — or anything else in German — is still the best way to get a table at a French restaurant.

No More Haugen

Haugen is getting more column inches in this blog than the cooked-up Bush/Cheney business ethics stories in the Washington Post. Can we agree this needs to stop?

I will get the last word though: If you need to give a hymn-text writer the benefit of the doubt when it comes to interpreting the text then it's obviously not clear enough. And how can you pray when the text lacks clarity?

This from the reader who initially wrote to take issue with some of Haugen's lyrics.

In common American English parlance, to say “not in some ….” is to cast doubt upon the truth of whatever word comes next. This appears to be disparagement of the concept of heaven. “Now is the kingdom, now is the day” is not a problem in itself, as we are told that we as the Church really are the body of Christ. However, since it follows right on the heels of a statement questioning the concept of heaven, it appears to be saying that we will make our version of heaven now, here.

Mr. Shirley indicates that you need to read the first sentence in the context of the second, and his concept of different versions of heaven is unnecessarily convoluted in order to make that work. Logic usually supports the simplest explanation, and the simplest explanation is that the first sentence sets the context.

I also believe that Mr. Haugen probably did not mean to denigrate heaven or support atheism or humanism. But his PC theology is sloppy here, and at the very least he allowed something questionable to stay in his work. It’s understandable, given that he is non-Catholic, that his emphasis is on community, brotherhood, etc. As Catholics, we do need more of that. However, all too often people seem to feel that this is all that is necessary; that if you have love and brotherhood (or should that be siblinghood?) that’s all you need. You don’t need all those niggly details that are so hard to remember and even harder to practice, like respecting the life of unborn children, obeying God’s commandments on chastity, clothing the poor, etc. Just enjoy that good, warm fuzzy feeling, and that will get you to heaven.

Michael Shirley writes:

The reader who comments on "Gather Us In" says this:

"Not in 'some' heaven? This sounds like the anthem of an atheist - we'll
make heaven here, now, don't need some god to do it for us. That's the
definition of humanism, isn't it? I know that's not what he's really trying
to say, but that's how it comes out, and apparently no one cares."

Actually, that's not how it comes out to me, nor, I suspect, to most people.
"Now is the kingdom, now is the day" says to me that we are to be God's
children now, to be like Jesus now, and not wait until we get to heaven to
love our fellows. As to "some heaven," have you noticed how many
different visions of heaven there are among Christians? "Some heaven" makes
perfect sense in context, and is entirely Christian. There's nothing
atheist about it.

Now, let's talk about another song: "I Don't Know How to Love Him."
Opinions?

Anyone else got their hymn book handy? Mine is out in the car but I can't go get it now. I have this thing called a "job" that has nothing to do with restoring truly sacred music to its rightful place in the liturgy. Maybe I will have time over lunch.

Here is a painting of

Here is a painting of Christ crucified by Saint Alphonsus Liguori. I have been reading the private revelations of St. Bridget and come to the conclusion that I have not seen many crucifixes or depictions of the crucifixion that really show Christ's suffering. I won't get on the topic of more accurate or graphic depictions of Christ's suffering on the Cross, but I think it is important that we don't insulate ourselves from the bitter pain of His Passion in such depictions.

Why did Christ suffer unless it was required of His love to secure our redemption? Not only that but to show us the depth of His love and to teach us that suffering matters. Do you agree?

Here is a link to The Fifteen Prayers of St. Bridget of Sweden on Christ's Passion.

The book from TAN on her revelations is inspiring as well. You know what the Church says about private revelation - take it or leave it - it's not core to the faith.

Instant messenger ministry

I know a priest who is the campus minister at a university. He gets on AIM when he can because he finds that students will tell him things online that they wouldn't tell him in person. I think he's brave just to give his screen name out at all, much less minister to students online. I wonder if he's had to explain to anyone that he can't hear their confession over the internet.

Most of the freeware comment applets allow you to customize how the comment links appear on your site. Different text can appear if you have no comments on a post, one comment, or more than one comment. I seriously considered putting some smart-alecky phrases in the template but then decided against doing so in the interest of charity. That won't keep us from having a good laugh at what I thought about putting in the template! The numbers here are completely arbitrary.

No one is reading these 2 comments
4 out of 5 heretics say...
7 people need a blog of their own
27 people think we're snobs
103 need to go to confession
13 morons are on the loose!
57 people hate Marty Haugen's music, too!
Anathema sit!
You think you're better than me?

We love our readers. We really do. Please don't let my sarcasm keep you from posting comments and sending us email.

contains a ton of downloadable public-domain works. It is an extensive collection of works in many different formats. Some are even in MP3 format. For the HTML and TXT versions of the documents you can select all the text then copy and paste it into your word processor and save it for future reference.

Be warned - the site contains a wide range of Christian literature, some of it schismatic. Notice I didn't say "ecumenical!"

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Mailbag :: See I told you so

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A reader writes about the theologically backwards message of some original Haugen lyrics:

After reading your last post, I thought of the most theologically abhorrent hymn I knew. Went and checked, and sure enough, it's Marty Haugen's work. I hate "Gather Us In" because of this verse:

Not in the dark of buildings confining
Not in some heaven, light years away,
But here in this place the new light is shining,
Now is the kingdom, now is the day.

Not in "some" heaven? This sounds like the anthem of an atheist - we'll make heaven here, now, don't need some god to do it for us. That's the definition of humanism, isn't it? I know that's not what he's really trying to say, but that's how it comes out, and apparently no one cares.

A liberal with an ax to grind

From foxnews.com

Turns out the lawsuit brought on that led the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals to rule that "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance is unconstitutional was brought on by a liberal atheist with an ax to grind. Michael Newdow initially filed the lawsuit on behalf of his daughter, who is living with her mother. The parents have never been married. Newdow is a physician and attorney living in San Francisco. Sandra Banning and her daughter live in what she describes as a Christian household. She has not been "injured" by reciting the pledge at all. Now Newdow says "This is MY issue. I have a right to send my child to a public school without the government inculcating any religious beliefs. I'm saying I'M injured." Go read the whole article. This guy is a piece of work.

Mailbag :: I am a snob

Michael Shirley says so. And I don't mind one bit.

First, yes you are a snob, but so am I: I would cheerfully drive across three counties to avoid a Latin mass, and tend to walk out of church if I find out that only the organ will accompany the choir. Takes all kinds, doesn't it?

It sure does!

I have to say that you're being unfair to Mr. Haugen. He qualifies nearly everything he says as being colored by his own bias, and that his examples are simplistic but should provide a basis for discussion. Where's the problem?

Problem one is that I'm a snob. I don't like most of his music because it is pedestrian. If there was a beat (and their frequently is) you can dance to it. I don't think it belongs in the Mass. The second problem is theology. Someone who does not share in our beliefs as Catholics has more airtime in Mass than the priest in his homily. That has been dumbing down the faith for a quite a while. I think it is an influence that we have not fully understood. I might write more about this later today if time allows. I would love to hear other thoughts.

BTW, have you read Kathleen Norris's "Cloister Walk," wherein she talks of church as being "the place you go to sing"?

I have not read that book. If I do I'll keep my cheese grater at close hand!

for people, like Marty Haugen, who are educated beyond their intellect.

Michael Tinkler helps out a non-coreligionist in need:

A point about Marty Haugen and the Navajo singer -

The person he is quoting is PERFORMING THE RITUAL - in
other words, is the analogue of a priest, not of a
member of a congregation, or even a 'music minister'.
In other words, it's a really stoooopid analogy. YES,
priests should sing (though you or your brother
mentioned non-singing priests sometime not too long
ago).

One last thing

Haugen was never a Catholic priest. He did, however, take the hair that was on his head and put it on his face.

http://www.martyhaugen.net/bio.htm

I read that talk from Haugen

I managed to get through it without spontaneously combusting. I can agree with some of the things Haugen said. For example:

"...music in worship should never be an end in itself. Music (and the music minister) must always point beyond themselves to the Word proclaimed, the rite celebrated, and the God who calls us together."

This, on the other hand, is complete crap:

"However, discussions about what we should sing--this chorale or that praise song, a new contemporary song or an ancient hymn--can miss the whole point."

Music began in Catholic liturgy because some of the prayers were believed to be too profound to be spoken. Musically speaking, we have substituted that which is pedestrian with what was profound. That is why I willl drive across three counties to hear a chanted Latin Mass. Haugen mentions this profundity in the article saying, "We sing to express things too deep for the spoken word." If you've ever really read some of the lyrics to Haugen's praise and worship hymns you would know some things are best left unspoken and unsung. Just because it is music doesn't mean it is profound, more joyful, more relevant, more appropriate, or more spirit-filled.

Haugen was a music director in a Catholic Church for 12 years. When he interjected music into what had previously been a Mass devoid of music, he found himself justifying himself to a parishioner.

Quoting Augustine, I said, "The one who sings, prays twice." "Don't give me that," he said, "I prayed just fine until you interrupted my prayer with your music."

Who among us hasn't felt that way before during Mass?

Under the section "Why do we sing?" Haugen writes:

We sing to remember

Frank Mitchell, a Navajo Blessingway singer, says this about singing:

When I began to learn the Blessingway, it changed my whole life. I began really thinking about ceremonies. I had heard singing before that, but now I began to take it more seriously because I began to realize what life was and the kind of hardships we have to go through. Before I started learning Blessingway, the older people used to tell me that I should think about life more seriously. "If you don't know any songs, you have nothing to go by. If a child grows up in a family like that, he doesn't know where he is going or what he is doing? That is what the older people told me, that I should have something to live by.

If you don't know any songs to sing, you have nothing to go by. What kind of responsibility does this place upon those of us who choose the music our congregations will sing? The hard reality is that songs stay in our memory long after sermons and creeds are forgotten. It is the songs that we know from memory that shape our faith.

It seems to me that Haugen is going out of his way to prove the relevance of music in liturgy. An example from Native American spirituality is not helping his case at all. Taking from other theologies, cultures, cosmologies or practices has historically been a very bad in many instances. He's right about songs staying in our memory - I can't get his garbage out of my brain for a few hours after Mass without a strong does of Arvo Pärt or some such that truly expresses those things that are too profound to speak. Putting music above creeds, like say the Apostle's Creed, is absurd. Perhaps I am just a snob, but I hate, hate, hate the warm and fuzzy music that has cropped up since Vatican II. Popular music takes the ritual out of the Mass. I am just speaking of the musical vocabulary and instrumentation. The lyrics in some praise and worship songs is theologically backwards at worst and sketchy at best. Frequently the Eucharist is presented as bread and wine rather than the Body and Blood of Our Lord. The musical offering should reflect as much as possible the offering being made at the altar. Again I say this does not call for hootenanny!

A reader points me to an article written by Haugen. His quote is remarkably moronic. The article it comes from is full of statements like this. I'll post some of them later today.

I found this quote by Martin Haugen: For I believe that the Holy Spirit has more room to move when we are distracted by our passionate discussions. There is little room for the Spirit in a pattern of worship that is fixed and unchanging. Ask the Roman Catholics about worship between the Council of Trent and the Second Vatican Council. So, if tension is a sign of the Holy Spirit's presence, Lutherans today can be assured that their church is indeed Spirit-filled.

at this site: http://www.elca.org/dcm/worship/haugen.html

This lengthy article by Mr. Haugen is linked to a Lutheran site that identifies Mr. Haugen as a Catholic priest and former Lutheran. Do you know anything about this?

I'm going to have to look into this. If anyone else has answers let me know.

Emily Stimpson is making oodles of sense today

even though she didn't get much sleep. The post about her Godchild's Baptism is truly, truly, truly inspiring. What are you doing still reading our blog? Go read hers!

From Michael Tinkler, the Cranky Professor.

In re: non-coreligionist hymnists - lots of
Protestants are under the impression that the
persecutors in "Faith of Our Fathers" are nasty
Cat'lic inquisitors, because they don't know who
Frederick Faber is or that he ended up a Roman. In
fact, last summer some mixed-marriage couple was
sitting next to me at Mass. The woman said fairly
loudly: 'this is in our Methodist hymnal'. I leaned
over and said, 'yes, but Fr. Faber was a Catholic
priest.' Ruined her Sunday, heh heh.

By the way, after a mild hiatus (not jet lag, just
catching up) I'm back to blogging at the
crankyprofessor.

And there is much, much rejoicing!

God bless this patriot

Party like it's 2050

According to the World Wildlife Fund, the Earth is going to run out of things in 2050. It's a good thing to know this now so we can stock up well in advance. I am always running out of necessities at the most inopportune times. Not air and water - the stuff I really need. This morning, in fact, I found that I was out of toilet paper. Since I was in rather dire straits I did what my neighbor's cat does. I used my newspaper. But seriously folks, the World Wildlife Fund is not only telling us the Earth is going to expire in 2050 so that all that's left are roaches and empty Pez dispensers, they are also suing the fine athletes and entertainers of the Word Wrestling Federation to change their name. My dad is a huge fan of what we now know as the WWF, not those muesli-for-brains preaching the gospel of doom and gloom. This is what I have to say to those floraphiles (i.e. tree-huggers): borrow loosely from P.J. O'Rourke, "Turn the music down, pull your pants up, turn your hat around, and get a job!"

I would be expecting too much from CNN to mention that Rocky Versace, a Vietnam War POW and posthumous recipient of the Medal of Honor, was a devout Catholic who nearly entered the seminary rather than enroll in West Point.

Posthumous Medal of Honor goes to defiant POW

Contrast that with John J. Miller's treatment on nationalreview.com.

Rocky Wins! A hero’s story.

I know what you're thinking. I should expect news from cnn, not the editorial comment of NRO. The only editorializing that Mr. Miller does is the last sentence in his piece: "...make no mistake: There won't ever be another Rocky Versace." Other than that it is news like cnn is news, except that it has more facts. I don't know about you but that's what I want from the news I read - more relevant facts. Facts without the patently liberal bias of omission.

The inspiration for John's funny

The inspiration for John's funny post below was a call that I made to a parish yesterday to speak to a priest. The woman had clearly lost whatever enthusiasm she might have had for her job back when she was taking calls for Moses. She told me very tersely she thought Father was gone but she would look for him. She put the phone down and I heard the sound of her opening a can of soda and slowly pouring it into a glass, then she got back on the phone and said "He's on retreat - call back on the 12th." I was thinking "Don't knock yourself out taking a message, lady - I wouldn't want you to have to lift that rock and chisel to write my name down!"

tink tink tink tink "IS THERE A 'T' IN SCHULTZ?!" tink tink tink tink tink

Random Thought

Ever called your parish to speak to a priest and have a curt secretary tell you he's on retreat? Makes you think maybe they need a retreat for parish secretaries.

Schedule for the Day of Recollection for Parish Secretaries

9:30am Arrive St. Agnes Retreat Center
10:00am Welcome
10:10am Ice breaker: "Who moved my cheese?"
10:30am First Talk: "How Would Christ Answer the Phone If He Had 167 Calls Per Day Asking for the Mass Schedule"
11:30am Small Group Discussion: "If I Could Be A Gazelle, How Far Would I Run From The Parish Offices Before Returning?"
12:00pm Brown Bag Lunch and Errand of Your Choice: Pharmacy, Library or Catholic Book Store
1:15pm Second Talk: "Dealing With Nuns In Leotards"
2:00pm Small Group Discussion: "Do You Want to Smack the Nun with the Front or the Back of Your Hand?"
2:20pm Nap
2:45pm Third Talk: "I Might Wear A Leotard, But I Run A Tight Retreat Center Here at St. Agnes"
3:30pm Small Group Discussion: "Why is That Nun Such A Sourpuss?"
4:00pm Sending Forth: "Go Forth and Make A Healthy Dinner For Your Family Before Tuning In To Murder She Wrote"

Marty Haugen ain't Catholic

I didn't know Haugen wasn't Catholic until this past Saturday. He's Lutheran. Does it strike anyone as odd that his music has permeated Catholic liturgy? To be fair, the Protestants who wrote the awesome Protestant Hymns aren't Catholic either. But they also haven't been dumbing-down the faith for the past couple of decades.

I went to the Shrine yesterday

in the wake of July 4th revelry. As I crossed over the 14th Street bridge into the DC I saw a bunch of big boats anchored from the night before. Last year I saw the fireworks from the water on my boat in that very spot. It was worth the experience but even if I still had my boat I wouldn't do it again. Drunk people stumbling around on land are bad enough. When drunk people are piloting boats on a dark and stormy night you stay off the water.

The Shrine was quiet save from some tourists knocking around with their young children. I had a wonderful confession with an elderly priest and prayed the Rosary in front of Our Lord in the Blessed Sacrament. I also went a little nuts at the bookstore. I bought several copies of Mark Shea's This is My Body for my Evangelical friends. That was my mini-retreat on my day off.

I requested last week that

I requested last week that you pray for Julie Vantree, a friend of my sister who was suffering from terminal cancer. She passed on on July 4 at 4 am. Thank you all very much for your prayers. Please continue to pray for the repose of her soul. Have a Mass offered for her if you can.

Mailbag

Got this on the 4th of July.

A vernacular Mass can be reverent and an occasion for Heaven and earth uniting in praise. The operative word is that it can be.
True, true.

However, in this discussion one should remember that we should not have to "educate" people to like Latin, it is the language of the Church. For an English speaker/Spanish speaker it is just a snap to learn enough of it to make the ordinary parts of the Mass easily understandable. (Once I read a Jewish person commenting respectfully about Catholics because they too use a language in worship that is not usually part of every day life.)

You say, "Should not have to" but the fact is, due to the fact that Latin use in the Liturgy was run out on a rail there's a huge amount of people who are abysmally ignorant of the roots of Catholic tradition. If you ask them the accomplishments of Vatican II, they will say it did away with Latin in the Mass. I'll address the reason why they have this feeling below, the point here is we are at a point where the average Catholic is just plain ignorant of the why's and wherefore's of many things. We shouldn't have to educate cradle Catholic adults about the Real Presence. We shouldn't have to educate them about the authority of the Pope. We shouldn't have to educate them about the Biblical foundation for confession to a priest. But we do, and the reason is the "average" Catholic can be very far from the Church and her teachings.

So we have to educate people about the beauty of Latin, the history and the fact that there's something sacred in having the Mass be celebrated in a language other than the one you use to make grocery list.

It is no secret that the banishment of Latin from the liturgy is a cultural assault on the Church by fith-columnists calling themselves Catholic. They know perfectly well how distructive [sic] it is. They know very well that as long as it is in use the improvisations will continue. They know that going back to Latin is just a code word for recovering the sacred. They want no part of it. John, you cannot educate the committed ideologues. You are wasting your time. It is analogous to educating the cocaine edict [sic] about the benefits of sobriety. They hate being sober. That is why they are edicted. [sic] I am afraid what you are proposing is musical social work.

I'll grant you the point that there are people that have an agenda and I'll also agree with you that the nun in the leotard cannot be reasoned with.

But this is where lots of folks who enjoy Latin Mass run into trouble: they look down on 98% of their American Catholic counterparts as woefully informed and participating in a 2nd class Mass. They are not the coke addicts. They need to get some music with a sacred character back into the repertoire and the only way to do that is to gradually phase those works in, to explain patiently to people who come up to you after you've sung Latin chants at a Sunday Mass that they are the words have the same meaning as the English sung week after week, but these melodies are hundreds of years old and are meant to transcend our culture. You call it musical social work, I call it patient evangelization - it's the same thing we are all called to do - by the grace of God we plant seeds that germinate over time.

If one doesn't take that approach, all we have in an us vs. them mentality.

Tons of lectures in MP3 format

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I found an FTP server that has a pile of Catholic lectures in MP3 format. If you have a fast connection to the internet it might be worth your while to check it out. The retreat for priests by Bishop Bruskewitz are incredible.

ftp://168.103.72.138/ewtn_lectures/

Scary

From the Jerusalem Post July 2 edition. 'Become a Muslim warrior' by Daniel Pipes.

Mail

Hey, I'm for a certain amount of ecumenism in music, but there's no need for slumming. Proulx si', Haugen no'!

For those of you who don't know, Richard Proulx is a composer and arranger who has written some great stuff, including an arrangement of "O God Beyond All Praising" based on some hymn tune that I can't recall right now because it's 100 degrees in Washington DC. In any case, I highly recommend his work. GIA has published a bunch.

Mail - Latin vs. Vernacular

Here's a good point:

...the major problem in your average vernacular Mass I think, is that in general Catholics have forgotten that the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass is a miracle that touches Heaven down to earth. It's otherworldly. It's not fellowshipping (is that really a verb?) or 'community-making'. It is flat out worship of an awesome God and the offering of the perfect Sacrifice. Forgeting that has cost us dearly. I pray that collectively we can let the Holy Spirit pull us back.

That's my issue in a nutshell with the character of liturgical music - I believe it needs to speak to the transcendence of God in expressing the sacred rather than the conversion of contemporary cultural styles into some that is quasi-sacred because it includes the word "Jesus" intermixed with "called" "chosen" "community" etc. It's the classic sacred vs. mundane: just because I impose sacred expressions onto something mundane doesn't mean it's truly sacred.

The tempation here is to completely dismiss music and liturgy that doesn't conform to one's ideas about how mere mortals should express the sacred. That's a mistake along the same lines and walking up to someone on the street and saying "Are you saved?" Without a context for the discussion and an experience of the sacred, there's no basis for continuing a discussion. And that's the key to getting acceptance of truly sacred repertoire at your average parish: slowly reintroducing truly classic and sacred expressions. If we're smart, we'll be patient about using some of today's "fast food" music while leaning toward hymns, chants and choral pieces that try to transcend rather than sanctify our contemporary culture.

So now you know why we do a little Haugen. You die-hard latin folks should consider this approach, because the "us vs. them" approach will not win converts - patience and love is the key.

Let's make a bet

I'll bet you five dollars that End-Time Handmaidens and Servants have all read the "Left Behind" series.

I haven't had time to look over their website in any detail, but this is troubling on it's own:

RECEIVING LIFE IN JESUS
If, after reading the above brief account of the life of Jesus and His death, you too want to become His follower and belong to the great family of God, then bow your head now, and pray this simple prayer:

"Father in Heaven, I come to You now. I confess that I am a sinner. I know that I have done many wrong and sinful things. I cannot change myself, but you can change me. I ask you to help me. Thank you Jesus, for dying for my sins. Thank you for taking my punishment for me. Please forgive me now. Please take my sins away. Make me a child of God. I accept You now as my own Saviour. I will love You. All my life I will live for You; and if necessary, I will die for You. Change my life, and make me pure and holy as You are. In Jesus' name. Amen."

I'm all for bringing souls to Christ, let's just bring them the whole way. Let's start them down a path that leads the whole way.

I got some email about this post which I will put up later and add some additional thoughts of mine. I can't seem to complete anything on this blog since I started my new job. Sorry for the confusion this may have caused!

You must woo the tambourine...

Mark Shea beat me to the punch on this one from The Onion, but it is too funny to pass up.

About twice a year we do a sacred Renaissance piece that has a hand drum or tambourine part. Those are the times I pull out my Grover tambourine and show the congregation that it can be played without incurring the wrath of the God. My undergrad is in music and percussion was my primary instrument. I never played or sang at the Masses on campus. The idiot guitar players told me they didn't need any male singers unless they could play guitar as well.

I went to St. Timothy's for Mass at noon today and bought a book they are selling on the history of the Diocese of Arlington. It would make a good coffee table book. It's big and slick and has lots of color. It cost $20. It used to be $40 - I guess it wasn't a best-seller even among our bretheren here. It contains a ton of pictures from just about every parish in the diocese and much, much more! I hope it tells why the architecture of churches built in the last few decades has been decidely un-churchy. There are some great pictures of the Chalet de Ski Alexandra was talking about a while back. Perhaps I'll have some time later tonight or later in the week - blogging has been hard with the new job. I'm no longer a failed writer so I can't write like one!

and the man who ordained them. This from the fifth day of the Divine Mercy Novena, the text was releaved in a private relevation to St. Faustina. According to her, this is what Jesus told her:

Today bring to Me the souls of heretics and schismatics, and immerse them in the ocean of My mercy. During my bitter Passion they tore at My Body and Heart; that is, My Church. As they return to unity with the Church, My wounds heal, and in this way they alleviate My Passion.

Schismatics don't ever see themselves as such. If they say "Rome says we're heretics" they wrap themselves in it as though it were a cloak of righteousness or a badge of honor. Christ meant us to be united in one body, His body. What would happen if they really knew what this does to Jesus?

Urgent prayer request

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One of my sister's friends is dying of cancer. She was diagnosed more than 18 months ago and is near death right now. She's in her early 30's and has been married for only two years. Please pray for her. She is not a Christian. I have been praying the Chaplet of The Divine Mercy for her in the hope that God will show her His boundless mercy at the hour of her death. Your prayers are appreciated. Her name is Julie Vantree.

If you don't know anything about the Divine Mercy devotion and the private revelations of St. Faustina start reading here.

Mailbag!

Here comes the feedback - good point about abuse.

Latin is proven to work against liturgical abusers. Any priest who is smart enough to learn Latin well enough to say a Tridentine or Novus Ordo Mass know better than mess with the rubrics.

Furthermore, the Latin liturgy is seldom abused by music directors because most do not come there at all. It is like holy water for the devil. You say "Oremus" and the ones of the Haugen_Dazs ilk just disappear. Puff! They are gone! That is why I like Latin liturgies.

The Latin Mass combines tradition and the sacred, two values that are not sufficiently appreciated by many who claim to be Catholics but are really not.

Let's Discuss: Latin Mass

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Hello, friends. Steve has been posting alot about Latin Mass and I wanted to frame a discussion.
Latin Masses are popping up all over the place and there's a sizable chunk of Catholics who think that's great. There's another sizable chunk of folks who think that's very bad. And there's a large chunk of people who don't care what language the Mass is celebrated in as long as the priest doesn't ask for money.

I have mixed feelings about the re-emergence of entire liturgies in Latin, but wanted to open the floor to discussion. Truth be known, I have mixed feelings about the entire liturgy in English, but it has more to do with the character of the liturgy than with the language. Let's discuss, shall we? E-mail me and I'll post comments here. This should be fun.

Here's my first tidbit for the discussion: I see many people attracted to Latin Mass because by its nature it can't have the clap-trap and cacophony associated with many litugies in the US. You can't have 7 guitars piped through the sound system at a Latin Mass. No one is going to be banging a tambourine for half the Mass. There's actually some still, quiet times for mediation instead of 30 minute homilities on mediation. And you won't find a priest rewording the Eucharistic prayer for "pastoral" reasons during a Latin Mass.

And I think those are valid problems with the liturgy today. But I don't think Mass in Latin is the uber-solution to the problem.

Feel free to drop da bombs here.

The Cheney Presidency from NRO

Good stuff from Dave Kopel today! This is a laugh riot!

The Cheney presidency. For two, two and a half, hours America was captivated by the charisma, charm, and vigor of our new president. It was a shimmering time of high hopes, new frontiers, and low-fat salad dressing.

After 18 months of steady, paternal leadership by the grandfatherly war hero George W. Bush, America was ready for the infusion of youthful energy and out-and-out sex appeal that President Cheney represented. Taking the reigns of power with his glamorous wife Lynne by his side, the new president stirred a nation with his fiery eloquence, calling upon all Americans to embrace "the next couple of hours" as a time when the "torch has been passed to a new generation of Americans born in the middle — or, actually, a little bit before the middle — of the last century, tempered by war, disciplined by a hard and bitter personal trainer who's really putting me through my paces weight-loss-wise."

As for me I enjoyed the Cheney Presidency while it lasted. Though I respect the man immensely as a statesman and a capitalist, I doubt he would ever win the top spot in an election.

Latin Mass Directory

I've heard from a number of readers on a great resource: http://www.latinliturgy.com/

It's a directory of Masses in Latin, using either the classical or reformed Roman rite, in either USA or Canada. Thanks to everyone who wrote!

Hogging Haugen

Steve - you know Marty Haugen is not on my top 40 list, but this week several of his pieces fit fine and the congregation sang the roof off. The plain chant Gloria (in English) was sung with as much fervor as "Gather Us In." So - I'm happy with how things went on Sunday. Don't worry - it won't be the Summer of Haugen. And for all you bloggers out there who hate "Gather Us In" both musically and theologically, all I can say is: every now and then you need to stop by McDonalds and get a BigMac and fries.

BTW - there's two big reasons why Arvo Part can't replace Haugen: you need a professional choir to do it right, and the congregation can't sing along. One of these days we'll try the Beatitudes - but even that is way out there in terms of the difficulty level.

I haven't blogged about Church music much lately... maybe it's time I get off the wagon!

We've got masstimes.com, now we need latinmasstimes.com. I'm serious! This from a reader in Maryland who wants to find a nearby church with a regular norvus ordo Latin Mass. If any of our wonderful readers know of such a parish, please email me and I'll pass it along.

I am a neophyte at St. Blog's (still sitting in the back wondering how
the Communion line forms) but I really have enjoyed the posts at
Catholic Light. I came in too late to see your post about the Latin Mass
at your parish. Any chance it will continue?

I am a luckless mezzo cantor stuck in central Maryland surrounded the
liturgical produce of His Eminence the Cardinal. Do we have drums with
little tinkly chimes in our butt-ugly churches? You betcha! By any
chance do you know of a decent looking church with properly revent
music going on during the Holy Sacrifice in the domain of His Eminence?
I've tried calling various parish offices and asking "Has your music
director sold his soul to OCP?" but a lot of the wymen answering the
phones think I'm asking for birth control and refer me to the local
clinic. Sigh. But seriously, I hate the thought of my children growing
up thinking that Marty Haugen invented Catholic music. There must be a
way to show them the other side but can it be done without putting
thousands of miles on the very unsexy minivan? That is the question.

What? Who?

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